Thurston County residents voice concern over potential cuts to sheriff’s budget

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They filled the chairs. They stood in the back of the room, crammed against the glass walls. They spilled out into the Atrium’s common area.

One man even held up a storage bin lid with a scribbled message that read, “best sheriff ever.”

In the end, roughly 100 county residents came to the Thurston County Board of Commissioners meeting Tuesday afternoon to express their overwhelming support for Sheriff Derek Sanders and his office.

More than that, they voiced concern over the potential cuts to county funding, which, as of Tuesday, were north of $4.5 million for the sheriff’s office.

Thurston County is estimating a $23.8 million structural deficit in its general fund.

Prior to the public comment portion of the meeting, Chair Tye Menser said the board was committed to public safety and taking steps to minimize the impacts of budget reductions.

“We’ve been working through this process over the last several weeks, and just this morning, the board considered additional proposals that could conceptually reduce the original sheriff’s office cut from an original $13.2 million to about two and a half million,” Menser said.

According to Menser, Sanders has indicated this new figure of $2.5 million is one that the sheriff “could work with to minimize public safety impacts.”

“Preliminary decisions on those proposals will occur tomorrow, so public comment today is well-timed,” Menser said Tuesday. “But given that the sheriff’s office is by far the largest portion of the county’s general fund, it is not possible to eliminate any reduction entirely and still balance our budget. Nearly every office and department in the county will be seeing budget reductions for 2026, many far greater than 5%, some as high as 18%.”

With that, Sanders kicked off the public comments, arriving at the podium to a round of applause from the audience. He began by acknowledging the “extremely challenging position” the commissioners were in, managing competing interests, unfunded mandates and poor economic conditions while overseeing budgets “with limited revenue and unlimited community need.”

He added that Menser had “maybe the most challenging job in the entire county right now.”

“The reality is most people don’t understand what is happening across the complexity of our layered government,” Sanders said. “And it is leaving everyone frustrated and confused. It is my hope that, moving forward, we as elected officials can all better educate our citizens on the very real systemic problems that are facing county-level government.”

The sheriff then spoke to his frustrations, which include the fact that Washington state ranked last in the nation in 2024 with 1.38 police officers per 1,000 citizens. The national average is 2.31 per 1,000 people, according to the Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs.

The story was worse in Thurston County, the sheriff said, until “citizens voted to get us out of that deficit.” Even with the trajectory change, more work is needed to increase staffing, Sanders said.

Sanders said he was surprised to find out Tuesday that Commissioner Emily Clouse had inquired about a $37,000 expense from the sheriff’s budget, which he said the department had both the donated funds — and the authority — to pay for.

“Because last week, when Animal Services had their $250,000 budget cut fully restored, you referred to the $250,000 as ‘budget dust,’” Sanders said. “For other entities, $250,000 gets to count as budget dust, but for us, $37,000 feels like it needs a fine-tooth comb.”

The expense, Sanders said, referred to the transportation of what he called a “free helicopter with $250,000 of equipment on it.” A helicopter that will become a “force multiplier” for the office, according to the sheriff.

He then commended the board for being instrumental in turning the sheriff’s office around, and implored its members to use their voices at the state level to change funding priorities.

Despite warning of the consequences of having less money in 2026 to support a growing population, the sheriff concluded by saying the office will continue to “get the job done, because we’ve always done more with less and, first and foremost, we care about each of our citizens.”

More than 20 county residents spoke over the next 45 minutes, virtually all in support of Sanders — and all but one against any proposed cuts to the sheriff’s budget.

The lone dissenting voice came from an electrician who accused the department of profiling working-class drivers and construction workers, saying the alleged practices were punitive, revenue-driven, and eroded trust.

“If they have resources for harassment (and) intimidation, then they can certainly reprioritize within a leaner budget,” the man said.




County resident Jon Pettit expressed his support of the sheriff’s office, but questioned the transparency and accountability from the board of commissioners when it comes to determining what to cut.

“We aren’t even given any numbers,” Pettit said. “We only know we have to make a cut. Where’s the numbers?”

He added that the sheriff’s office doesn’t need a cut in funding — it needs an increase.

Later in the meeting, Commissioner Wayne Fournier said that budget documents are openly available on the county’s website.

Multiple residents indicated they’d be willing to support a tax if it went to the sheriff’s office. One woman said she’d prefer to see her taxpayer money go to the office rather than housing for the homeless. She called one of the local shelters a “meth lab” and said none of the promised services were being offered.

Dale Bamford, a longtime volunteer firefighter and EMT, said deputy response times to emergency calls have improved under Sanders — and budget cuts would not help the matter.

Bamford referenced the salaries of the commissioners, which currently sit just shy of $148,000 per year, saying he hadn’t heard anything about the commissioners “wanting to share” in the budget cuts.

Fournier commented that the sheriff and county commissioners had actually sent a letter to the Washington Citizen’s Commission on Salaries for Elected Officials saying they did not want raises this year due to budget concerns.

The support for Sanders and his office continued throughout the public comments. One Tumwater resident said “defunding the police is an example of insanity.” Veterans spoke of having the sheriff’s “six,” a common phrase used in both law enforcement and the military.

Another commenter told the board to “find the money somewhere else.”

One Lacey resident wondered aloud why the commissioners would want to prioritize the welfare of stray animals over the welfare of the community. The comment received a round of applause. Another Lacey resident, who said he worked in a correctional environment in California for 30 years, called the budget cuts dangerous because they could result in forced overtime for the sheriff’s staff.

Yet another Lacey resident suggested that cuts to the sheriff’s funding could be considered malpractice.

Callie Carpenter, mayor of Bucoda, said budget cuts would have a huge impact on her town, which relies on the sheriff’s office for protection. With only 610 residents, Bucoda has no police force of its own.

JW Foster, the former mayor — and current mayoral candidate — of Yelm, as well as 25-year firefighter and paramedic in Thurston County, spoke of the symbiotic relationship between city police and sheriff’s deputies. In Yelm, Foster said, officers depended on the backup of their deputies, and vice versa.

Foster, also a former county commissioner candidate, said he had “full confidence” in the board’s ability to support its law enforcement, especially the sheriff’s office.

After the comments, Menser appeared pleased by the public’s robust response to the budget situation.

“This is great public comment,” he said, just before the board moved to other items on the agenda. “This is what real democracy looks like.”

Later that afternoon, Sanders posted on Facebook, thanking those who attended.

“Thank you to EVERYONE who showed up for TCSO, and thank you to our Board of County Commissioners for extending out your meeting to hear the concerns from every person who signed up to testify,” Sanders wrote.
Susan Melnyk, the county’s chief communications manager, told The Chronicle Tuesday that no formal decisions had been made regarding the county’s budget or any potential cuts.

“Every elected official and department leader is part of this conversation, and no decisions on budget reductions have yet been made,” the county reiterated in a release Tuesday afternoon. “We’re grateful for their dedication to the community and the passion they bring to their work.”

To follow the county’s budget plans, visit https://www.thurstoncountywa.gov/balancing-budget.